*Deep inhale* Okay, so.... I gotta be honest, I'm actually more disappointed with this update than anything... Not to say the overall quality of the writing isn't up to the usual quality or anything, cuz it absolutely is; no, I'm disappointed with the use of the whole "Person A says something; person B overhears part of it an misunderstands" trope, because I honestly thought this VN was above using that trope.
Obviously, I don't like that trope- like, really, really don't like it. It's only ever used as a cheep, low-effort way of bringing more drama into a story, it's literally never executed right, and even when it is executed in a decent way it's still awful to sit through because it's so overused! Further, the thing overheard is almost always something that didn't need to be said in the first place because both parties clearly already knew what was said, and it's always phrased in a way that no one would phrase it in real life for the sake of making it be easily misconstrued in-universe, and the characters involved always make the situation infinitely more complicated than it needs to be and end up making everyone involved look like assholes!
Seriously, the secret that Tai is keeping about Spencer and the fact that he used to date Spencer do not need to be mutually inclusive pieces of information; Tai is absolutely smart enough to know he could tell his boyfriend - who, by Tai's own admission, is the most important person in his life - the parts of the story that don't directly relate to Spencer's secret.
And speaking of Tai's boyfriend, this update makes MC out to be an absolute douchebag! Frankly, based on MC's behavior in this update, I'd even go so far as to say that Tai dodged a fucking bullet! There is a limit to what behavior can be justified in this situation and MC definitely crosses it; there is nothing that can be said or done that can reasonably justify or redeem MC's behavior, there just isn't.
There are better ways of doing this sort of thing than the way it's done here...
If you absolutely need to include this type of plot device, then there are better ways of handling this. My recommendations would be to:
1) extend the convo between Spencer and Tai to include more information about what's really going on, then handle it like Diego and Kyrex's convo at the end of Diego's route; that is, we - the player - don't know any more about the full convo than MC until after someone actually explains the convo to them. This would both make the convo less stilted and awkward because Spencer and Tai wouldn't be talking in super vague terms like they know someone (e.g. the player) is listening in and engage us in a similar way as the MC, making us wonder what actually happened in Tai's office.
and b) show more deliberation and hesitation in MC's actions in the days after the breakup; nothing huge, just more moments where MC stops - and I mean really stops - to wonder why he's not more heartbroken and why he's suddenly acting the way he is. Or full stop have MC's inner monologue be acknowledging of the fact that MC is basically exaggerating his horniness to such an extreme as a way to try and get over Tai faster - now thatwould really sell what I'm hoping you were actually going for. The way it's presented now, however, MC is just a huge douchebag, as mentioned before; if this is how we can expect him to act whenever there's some kind of relationship trouble in the future, I'd say Tai's better off without him.
Being able to empathize with the characters is absolutely essential to a story like this and when your main character is presented to basically turn into this massive douchelord, we lose the ability to feel sorry or empathize with them and our image of them as a person is pretty much gonna stay tarnished from then on.
Alright, since I'm pretty sure this is already my longest reaction to an update so far and it's just paragraph after paragraph of ranting, I'm gonna wrap this up here before I rile myself up again and leave off with this: up until now, I've absolutely adored this VN and it's a real shame to see it take this path when everything else has been so strong so far. It's fine if you wanna include some drama surrounding Tai and Spencer's past and all the secrecy about Spencer in general, but there are more effective ways of going about it than using such a cheep and overdone trope.
Anyways, keep at it! I'll be looking forward to the coming updates. I've always been adamant about people writing the stories they want to write, I just ask that this be considered some food for thought, as it were.
(also I'm really sorry for the huge rant; I have strong opinions and just no way of sharing them concisely...) :(
Totally agree with that, but I think it also shows that protagonist isn't as good or ideal person as everyone thinks, so it's a plus for me in some way (sorry if I didn't write it correctly)
My main issue is that MC's entire way of thinking has done a complete 180 over night; he's gone from a generally nice, moral, well meaning person to a literal sociopath in a ridiculously short amount of time. Behavior in-and-of itself is subjective and can shift radically on a whim, but the thoughts behind that behavior are another thing entirely; the way a person thinks takes time to change, and we've had a front-row seat to the way MC thinks for a route and a half by now. It'd be one thing if he was fully aware of his behavior and acknowledged it for what it is, but he isn't and doesn't, which is the crux of the - or rather, this - issue. Unless the behavior is qualified in real-time in MC's thoughts as his way of acting out and distancing himself from his feelings for Tai (e.g. "Tai clearly didn't care about me so I won't care about him" or "I'll just get with someone else and forget all about Tai"), there's no way to retroactively justify the way he's acting while in the first-person perspective.
Not even to mention the fact that we, the player, were showed the entire conversation between Tai and Spencer, which only served to justify the way Tai responds to MC's confrontation and further cementing in our heads how douchebag-ish MC is acting, as we have the full context. It would have been better to leave us in the dark about the full context of the conversation and, instead of Tai's unnecessary confession, leave the conversation off on a vague and suspicious note, something open to interpretation that could reasonably leave MC with some doubts; this, paired with the ring Tai was - by MC's perspective - suddenly waring around his neck and his blatant refusal to share any information regarding his past with Spencer, would bubble over into the situation we now find ourselves in. The way everything is executed now is just cheep and for the sake of setting up a dramatic act 2 climax, and the story pretends that there will be no way to reconcile between Tai and MC as though we didn't set out to play Tai's route in the first place; it's a series of terrible tropes that stick out like sore thumbs in an otherwise well-done story.
Consistency is key with characters in this kind of medium, and conveying a person as flawed is not the same as turning them into a manipulative sociopath when they've showed no tendencies towards such behavior before. The way MC is thinking right now completely flies in the face of almost every conversation he has with Tai in Diego's route; we have the perception of MC that we do because we've already been through an entire route in his head.
amigo aun no se acaba, es parte de la historia, pero te entiendo pues yo me siento afligido emocionalmente por esa situacion xD y peor aun que ahora Logan es incluido y ese oso polar me encanta, escoger entre él y Tai es dificil, ambos son de lo mejor :3 amo esta VN
In the last post, i saw, there's one or will be fully ended route, maybe it's Tai's?
Spoiler
Also, i'm a bit confused, because it's ended around knocking at Logan's door. Geez, i hope it's not Tai's route's ending. Logan is cute, but i'm more curious about Tai and there are things like happend the last 2 days what are actually waiting for us to get them know. Also i'm was CLEARLY surprised `my candy's` behaviour for Logan, like "Wow, so our character has a side like... this?"
Also i really really enjoyed! <3 I'm still waiting for the update for Tai, if he get more route update. Also i really wait for Dom and Axels, and also i want Jay too. :D I hope he will be dateable, it would be so fancy!
Hmm, this Doomsday clock disorder sounds like really good genetic mechanism for controlling population of sapient artificial creatures. If creatures need their creators for "reset" of countdown, they won't rebel, unless they stupid enough, and will be slaves for as long as needed by creators. Is it planned sub story about origin of those species or disease is natural?
I gave up on this game I keep losing everything cg I had to start again but with all the updates I'll definitely give it another another go because the story was really good
wow, this new update was amazing, great job with the update, it was amazing I have my own predictions on how the story will go but I know I'll be wrong about this but I want to say what I think.
1.Before Tai had his own route I kind of had a prediction that Tai and Spencer had something or a relationship or a deal.
I personally thought that Spencer was a weird person at first, then I thought he was in the mob, but right now I personally feel that he has a personal "relationship" with Tai.
personally, I don't think that's the case I know the story has something hiding and I personally feel that he's a time traveler I know it sounds weird but I personally think he's a time traveler or a mortal lol.
2.Adrian what the fuck??? lol I understand he can do it but it's kind of stupid. anyways I love Logan he's just amazing I'm very excited if there's going to be any scene with him but not like this
Personally, I feel like every character should have a cheat scene or a bad route, but I thought we might have had a choice to make the decision, but it seems like we're not going to have one or something like that.
I just guessed with Kyrex we had an option to do it or not but this seems really different we just didn't have a choice and we might cheat on Tai
Let's cross our fingers everything can fix itself and we can try to go back with Tai.
(sorry if this was a drag to read, I know my English is not that good big props for the update, and with the game, I love this so much I'm very excited for the next update and I wish I could support this game on Patreon)
Won't have to wait long to find out what's up with Spencer - all will become clear soon! And yes, Adrian's behavior is well and truly out of line... but you'lll just have to wait to find out why!
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I would suggest adding an exclusion or using a different antivirus program. After all, if they can't fix an obvious false positive after 6 months, would you really trust them to protect you from a real threat?
WOW! happy one year Annavsery Guys keep on doing your best out there because when one this story's door closes a new one will be born from it! so do your best ok, and Thank you Sileo: Tales of a New Dawn we love you~
Okay HOLY F*** this update was more than i could handle emotionally......
First of all, wtf Adrian ??! Like WTF ?! I kinda sympathize with Adrian to a certain point. He is kept in the dark for too many things, so hearing what he heard was just the off of his burst of anger. But damn the following part was just creepy... The hole reading time after the break up was dreadful to me, not in a bad way of course, the writing is fkin good to the point where it made me feel that way about Adrian's actions... My stomach was in knot until the end of the update. I mean sure i want to see some spicy scenes with Logan, but not that way, not with how Adrian is right now. On the contrary this may be a "good" thing for Adrian, where Logan might just want to chill with a friend, watch a movie, and nothing sexual would happen. Either way i'll be happy (i sure hope so) with the result of this evening with Logan.
Now for Tai..... Like WTF TAI ??!! You better have a godly worth reason to NOT at least try to explain what's going on !!!!!! Like DUDE !!! Okay the only informations we have about this mess is that Tai is apparently in love with Spencer, has been for some time, and is still gonna be for god knows how long. One other thing is the ring, witch i assure is/was an engagement ring that Tai must have given to Spencer a while ago... We do NOT know if Spencer feels/felt? the same way about Tai (or maybe i missed something) so it may sorta START to explain why he gave the ring (witch is gorgeous by the way) back to him, saying he may use it again soon... That's a little too foward for a prediction imo, as he was surely thinking about Adrian receiving it from Tai. So apparently Spencer is in danger if someone other than Tai and Lukas know "something" about him, to the point that he might die....?? Again wtf ?! This has to be some pretty CRAZY stuff to push it this far. And i assume it's partly related to the reason why Tai is in love with Spencer, but that's only an assumption and i may be wrong.
I may have missed a ton of critical info and details but meh...
Like Diego said, now Adrian HAS to go to the end of this screwed up mess for him to maybe, MAYBE find some sort of peace of mind because right now his head is pretty messed up.
I love this VN, i really do, but holy hell those kind of updates.... they are not bad, FAR from it, they are just.... heavy.... I rarely get this emotionally torn off, but you guys just acheived that. Every update is loaded with fresh and original content, like this one (unrelented but i put this update on the same level of genius writing than HugeCookie's VN "A Place To Call Home" last one.... you guys are crazy genius :D), and i hope the next update will give some answers and clear Adrian's head, or the next one idk how you guys plan to do it :p.
Glad you like it. I know it's a difficult thing to stomach at the moment, sorry about that. Hopefully the eventual answers and resolution are worth it!
When you said some time ago that Tai's route would blow our mind (or something like that) you weren't kidding haha. And now that i can speak with a clear head about this update i can safely say that i actually loved it, it was just the first time for me to experience such a heavy reading session about this topic (cuz yeah i did it in one go i might be crazy :p), and i don't think i ever saw this kind of topic developed this far in other VNs and you had the guts to do it, so don't feel sorry for that because i think it had the desired effect.
(hope it wasn't too much of a headache to understand i sometimes lose myself in my explanations)
i am confused, i love Tai and that's for sure, but Logan is so fucking cute, if i have to choose between those two i will have an existential crisis... i just love this VN, I love Tai's route and I NEED a Logan route so bad.
i love the storyline but when will the dom and axel route finish or be released im excited for that route mostly axel because dom just seems more like a bother then a lover so thats why im going for axel
Ok I hate how our character jumps to conclusions with tai and does something with Logan that really hurt me playing it I hope the next update he gets back with tai and recoil what they have
No worry, dude. It is not real and I don't think the mc will get over Tai that easily. WE DO know the mc is stuck in a dream and he has to give Spencer the answer he wants. So don't worry
i do think this is somewhat realistic, after something like that MC would want to do these kinds of impulsive things as a way to cope, even if he wouldn't admit it
Okay so i finished Diegos route and i am glad about how it handled kyrex in the end, wouldnt mind seeing more of him. The whole story was great from writing to art.good work.
That being said, i think i found a minor bug in diegos Route. Even thought i played from start to finish, two of his CGs in the gallery havent unlocked, by the placement of the CGs its probably the pic of his first and second fight (not naming stuff cause spoilers). everything after that is there. Just wanted to mentioned it.
There's been a few wonky triggers for gallery unlocks popping up as of late. We've got some fixes coming in future builds, hopefully that'll make things better!
Maaan, first Kyrex then Glenn. Why do the biggest A-holes have the most interesting character arts? With the way it is going i bet this "Ethan" guy (whoever he is) will look pretty good too. fortunatly there is Tai's route . Speaking of, do we ever get to see a photo(art) of him of his younger days? i 'd like see him in punk with that big Mohawk he mentioned when he talked about the band.
Edit: okay, maybe there is more to kyrex then i thought, i only had played tai's route and just recently began Diegos route
this is one hell of a great game i had so much fun playing it i cant wait to see what is next on the list for updates and the art work it is so good keep up the great work
hey Dev, i would like to ask a favor, i have difficulties about my save arrangement, mine are mess with old save and their riddance are bliss, would you like to add delete button on the Load Game menu, it would be a bliss if i have that in hand......and of course, Love the the story, between the main char and Diego are somethin' even not follow Diego's path, their connection are mutual......looking forward and stay in touch......#sincerelyYourFan.
I NEED TO KNOW... I can't lie I'm a sucker for sharks so i need to know will we EVER be able to have a relationship with Russell He is my favorite character.
PS. this update was phenomenal and I can't wait till the next one your art style amazing story amazing... Thank you.
We're planning on giving a lot of other characters time in the spotlight once the main four routes are finished. There'll definitely be future content for Russell, but it isn't set in stone what that'll be just yet. Time will tell!
I'm a bit disappointed with Tai not explaining what his relationship was with Spencer to the MC, I definitely can understand MC's frustration though; being kept in the dark, even if it was for safety, for so long without any sort of explanation does bring up a lot of concerns in relationships.
The MC's reaction is a bit surprising though. Going after someone else, especially someone he met the same day, literally the next day after a breakup is a bit concerning. I feel like he's hiding something...
Anyways, the update was still amazing! Keep up the great work!
Having an option for this is on our list of things to do, but unfortunately it's a rather long list! We'll get something done when time permits, but it could be a while before we can get to it.
Okay, wow, my heart has been broken once again. I really don't like how the mc is taking this whole 'thing' he seems a little too harsh and quick to get over Tai, and I feel like he made a decision he's definitely going to regret...
i have a theory or two about that, but i dont know if it would be a spoiler on the off chance that i would be right. So i dont know if it is okay to write my theorys here or not.
no Tai... not again ;( i hope we get some more specific answers in the next few upcoming days. I'm getting too much emotional about Tai's and our relationship *crying emote*
today's update is great! really makes you wonder what is tai & spencer's relationship; and especially logan! after knowing about him makes me love him even more because of how much I relate to him. being taken advantage by people who call themselves your "friend" to get what they want/need. Too bad he isn't one of the routes, I would've love to date that big teddy bear!
Big agreed, the fact that it cut off where it did definitely makes it feel like it's going to be a bait and switch, and thank god, because I super do not want to fuck him under these circumstances... now at a later date, possibly with tai, on the other hand...
It's definitely not rushed, we're spending far more time on this one. The pacing is deliberately weird though, that's probably what you're referring to. It's all intentional, and all serves a purpose!
Maybe rushed isn’t the right word, but in my experience, I felt the pacing of Tai’s route was…..very mundane. It was like update after update was just too much sex. The fact that it was so early in the story and in the MC’s relationship with Tai didn’t sit right with me at all and it seemed like pure fan service. I know that issue was addressed in the dialogue and all, but the fact that it kept happening kinda made the story very boring….I found myself skipping through mostly everything….including the sex lol. This last update was really the only interesting one as there were some good story elements here. Although some of the reveals were kinda obvious, it was still nice to see something other that Tai’s sexual ferocitywas being talked about. I’m just kinda ready for it to be over….with where we are now in his route I’m surprised it’s not, but hey. So maybe not rushed, but the repetition of sex and “let’s get back together because dick and flattery” just feels like filler and fan service while contributing zero to the story….since it’s come this far, hardly anything important has happened, and it’s only been in this recent update. Diego’s route was so nicely paced….they did stuff together, they had heartfelt moments together, and the sex wasn’t shoved in your face like it is with Tai. You actually felt a connection with Diego while Tai is literally just a hot sugar daddy with self induced attachment issues. I guess thrown together is how I’d describe it….the route just sorta passes time.
It was all going good while i was playing Tai route until we went camping and each time i play that part it stopped and returns back to my home screen i need help its a good game too
No fixed time, sort of a 'when it's ready type of thing'. We're not far off, CurryCatz is just putting the finishing touches on one last piece of art then we're going to test the builds. So a few hours maybe.
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*Deep inhale* Okay, so.... I gotta be honest, I'm actually more disappointed with this update than anything... Not to say the overall quality of the writing isn't up to the usual quality or anything, cuz it absolutely is; no, I'm disappointed with the use of the whole "Person A says something; person B overhears part of it an misunderstands" trope, because I honestly thought this VN was above using that trope.
Obviously, I don't like that trope- like, really, really don't like it. It's only ever used as a cheep, low-effort way of bringing more drama into a story, it's literally never executed right, and even when it is executed in a decent way it's still awful to sit through because it's so overused! Further, the thing overheard is almost always something that didn't need to be said in the first place because both parties clearly already knew what was said, and it's always phrased in a way that no one would phrase it in real life for the sake of making it be easily misconstrued in-universe, and the characters involved always make the situation infinitely more complicated than it needs to be and end up making everyone involved look like assholes!
Seriously, the secret that Tai is keeping about Spencer and the fact that he used to date Spencer do not need to be mutually inclusive pieces of information; Tai is absolutely smart enough to know he could tell his boyfriend - who, by Tai's own admission, is the most important person in his life - the parts of the story that don't directly relate to Spencer's secret.
And speaking of Tai's boyfriend, this update makes MC out to be an absolute douchebag! Frankly, based on MC's behavior in this update, I'd even go so far as to say that Tai dodged a fucking bullet! There is a limit to what behavior can be justified in this situation and MC definitely crosses it; there is nothing that can be said or done that can reasonably justify or redeem MC's behavior, there just isn't.
There are better ways of doing this sort of thing than the way it's done here...
If you absolutely need to include this type of plot device, then there are better ways of handling this. My recommendations would be to:
1) extend the convo between Spencer and Tai to include more information about what's really going on, then handle it like Diego and Kyrex's convo at the end of Diego's route; that is, we - the player - don't know any more about the full convo than MC until after someone actually explains the convo to them. This would both make the convo less stilted and awkward because Spencer and Tai wouldn't be talking in super vague terms like they know someone (e.g. the player) is listening in and engage us in a similar way as the MC, making us wonder what actually happened in Tai's office.
and b) show more deliberation and hesitation in MC's actions in the days after the breakup; nothing huge, just more moments where MC stops - and I mean really stops - to wonder why he's not more heartbroken and why he's suddenly acting the way he is. Or full stop have MC's inner monologue be acknowledging of the fact that MC is basically exaggerating his horniness to such an extreme as a way to try and get over Tai faster - now that would really sell what I'm hoping you were actually going for. The way it's presented now, however, MC is just a huge douchebag, as mentioned before; if this is how we can expect him to act whenever there's some kind of relationship trouble in the future, I'd say Tai's better off without him.
Being able to empathize with the characters is absolutely essential to a story like this and when your main character is presented to basically turn into this massive douchelord, we lose the ability to feel sorry or empathize with them and our image of them as a person is pretty much gonna stay tarnished from then on.
Alright, since I'm pretty sure this is already my longest reaction to an update so far and it's just paragraph after paragraph of ranting, I'm gonna wrap this up here before I rile myself up again and leave off with this: up until now, I've absolutely adored this VN and it's a real shame to see it take this path when everything else has been so strong so far. It's fine if you wanna include some drama surrounding Tai and Spencer's past and all the secrecy about Spencer in general, but there are more effective ways of going about it than using such a cheep and overdone trope.
Anyways, keep at it! I'll be looking forward to the coming updates. I've always been adamant about people writing the stories they want to write, I just ask that this be considered some food for thought, as it were.
(also I'm really sorry for the huge rant; I have strong opinions and just no way of sharing them concisely...):(Thisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthis
Totally agree with that, but I think it also shows that protagonist isn't as good or ideal person as everyone thinks, so it's a plus for me in some way (sorry if I didn't write it correctly)
My main issue is that MC's entire way of thinking has done a complete 180 over night; he's gone from a generally nice, moral, well meaning person to a literal sociopath in a ridiculously short amount of time. Behavior in-and-of itself is subjective and can shift radically on a whim, but the thoughts behind that behavior are another thing entirely; the way a person thinks takes time to change, and we've had a front-row seat to the way MC thinks for a route and a half by now. It'd be one thing if he was fully aware of his behavior and acknowledged it for what it is, but he isn't and doesn't, which is the crux of the - or rather, this - issue. Unless the behavior is qualified in real-time in MC's thoughts as his way of acting out and distancing himself from his feelings for Tai (e.g. "Tai clearly didn't care about me so I won't care about him" or "I'll just get with someone else and forget all about Tai"), there's no way to retroactively justify the way he's acting while in the first-person perspective.
Not even to mention the fact that we, the player, were showed the entire conversation between Tai and Spencer, which only served to justify the way Tai responds to MC's confrontation and further cementing in our heads how douchebag-ish MC is acting, as we have the full context. It would have been better to leave us in the dark about the full context of the conversation and, instead of Tai's unnecessary confession, leave the conversation off on a vague and suspicious note, something open to interpretation that could reasonably leave MC with some doubts; this, paired with the ring Tai was - by MC's perspective - suddenly waring around his neck and his blatant refusal to share any information regarding his past with Spencer, would bubble over into the situation we now find ourselves in. The way everything is executed now is just cheep and for the sake of setting up a dramatic act 2 climax, and the story pretends that there will be no way to reconcile between Tai and MC as though we didn't set out to play Tai's route in the first place; it's a series of terrible tropes that stick out like sore thumbs in an otherwise well-done story.
Consistency is key with characters in this kind of medium, and conveying a person as flawed is not the same as turning them into a manipulative sociopath when they've showed no tendencies towards such behavior before. The way MC is thinking right now completely flies in the face of almost every conversation he has with Tai in Diego's route; we have the perception of MC that we do because we've already been through an entire route in his head.
😡no puedo creer que asi haya terminado la ruta de TAI que desepcion 🥺
I don't understan isekai :/
Aún no ha terminado. Se avecinan cinco días más.
(Thanks Google Translate)
amigo aun no se acaba, es parte de la historia, pero te entiendo pues yo me siento afligido emocionalmente por esa situacion xD y peor aun que ahora Logan es incluido y ese oso polar me encanta, escoger entre él y Tai es dificil, ambos son de lo mejor :3 amo esta VN
Alright question about Tai's route
spoilers for those who haven't gotten there yet
So like is Logan gonna have like a sort of secret split off path from Tai's route or is it gonna be just something platonic between Logan and the MC?
Answering that question would be spoilers! You'll find out where this is going in the coming months.
Alright thanks for responding anyways! I look forward to seeing whats next!
In the last post, i saw, there's one or will be fully ended route, maybe it's Tai's?
Spoiler
Also, i'm a bit confused, because it's ended around knocking at Logan's door. Geez, i hope it's not Tai's route's ending. Logan is cute, but i'm more curious about Tai and there are things like happend the last 2 days what are actually waiting for us to get them know. Also i'm was CLEARLY surprised `my candy's` behaviour for Logan, like "Wow, so our character has a side like... this?"
Also i really really enjoyed! <3 I'm still waiting for the update for Tai, if he get more route update. Also i really wait for Dom and Axels, and also i want Jay too. :D I hope he will be dateable, it would be so fancy!
Fully completed route is Diego's. Tai's isn't over yet - all routes are going to be around 20 days long. More updates to come!
Yey. <3
I should read Diego's too as well. :D
Hmm, this Doomsday clock disorder sounds like really good genetic mechanism for controlling population of sapient artificial creatures. If creatures need their creators for "reset" of countdown, they won't rebel, unless they stupid enough, and will be slaves for as long as needed by creators. Is it planned sub story about origin of those species or disease is natural?
I gave up on this game I keep losing everything cg I had to start again but with all the updates I'll definitely give it another another go because the story was really good
so when will there be where tai gets a little jealous?
You mean in the basement with the crow man? That was only a dream
how it feels when we're not vibing with tai
I can't listen to this song without thinking of Tai now-
wow, this new update was amazing, great job with the update, it was amazing I have my own predictions on how the story will go but I know I'll be wrong about this but I want to say what I think.
1.Before Tai had his own route I kind of had a prediction that Tai and Spencer had something or a relationship or a deal.
I personally thought that Spencer was a weird person at first, then I thought he was in the mob, but right now I personally feel that he has a personal "relationship" with Tai.
personally, I don't think that's the case I know the story has something hiding and I personally feel that he's a time traveler I know it sounds weird but I personally think he's a time traveler or a mortal lol.
2.Adrian what the fuck??? lol I understand he can do it but it's kind of stupid. anyways I love Logan he's just amazing I'm very excited if there's going to be any scene with him but not like this
Personally, I feel like every character should have a cheat scene or a bad route, but I thought we might have had a choice to make the decision, but it seems like we're not going to have one or something like that.
I just guessed with Kyrex we had an option to do it or not but this seems really different we just didn't have a choice and we might cheat on Tai
Let's cross our fingers everything can fix itself and we can try to go back with Tai.
(sorry if this was a drag to read, I know my English is not that good big props for the update, and with the game, I love this so much I'm very excited for the next update and I wish I could support this game on Patreon)
Won't have to wait long to find out what's up with Spencer - all will become clear soon! And yes, Adrian's behavior is well and truly out of line... but you'lll just have to wait to find out why!
um When Is 0.25
July.
i went to open the game and my computer instantly uninstalled it because a virus was in it... uhm?
This is an antivirus issue. Some AV programs get a false positive on games made in Ren'Py 7.4 that contain a 32 bit executable. Most antiviruses have updated their detections but some (AVG and Avast are notable examples) are still doing the same thing 6 months on even though they've had samples sent to them for analysis.
I would suggest adding an exclusion or using a different antivirus program. After all, if they can't fix an obvious false positive after 6 months, would you really trust them to protect you from a real threat?
WOW! happy one year Annavsery Guys keep on doing your best out there because when one this story's door closes a new one will be born from it! so do your best ok, and Thank you Sileo: Tales of a New Dawn we love you~
<3
I will miss Logan's former appearance. 😭
It did have its charm!
Okay HOLY F*** this update was more than i could handle emotionally......
First of all, wtf Adrian ??! Like WTF ?! I kinda sympathize with Adrian to a certain point. He is kept in the dark for too many things, so hearing what he heard was just the off of his burst of anger. But damn the following part was just creepy... The hole reading time after the break up was dreadful to me, not in a bad way of course, the writing is fkin good to the point where it made me feel that way about Adrian's actions... My stomach was in knot until the end of the update.
I mean sure i want to see some spicy scenes with Logan, but not that way, not with how Adrian is right now. On the contrary this may be a "good" thing for Adrian, where Logan might just want to chill with a friend, watch a movie, and nothing sexual would happen. Either way i'll be happy (i sure hope so) with the result of this evening with Logan.
Now for Tai..... Like WTF TAI ??!! You better have a godly worth reason to NOT at least try to explain what's going on !!!!!! Like DUDE !!!
Okay the only informations we have about this mess is that Tai is apparently in love with Spencer, has been for some time, and is still gonna be for god knows how long.
One other thing is the ring, witch i assure is/was an engagement ring that Tai must have given to Spencer a while ago... We do NOT know if Spencer feels/felt? the same way about Tai (or maybe i missed something) so it may sorta START to explain why he gave the ring (witch is gorgeous by the way) back to him, saying he may use it again soon... That's a little too foward for a prediction imo, as he was surely thinking about Adrian receiving it from Tai.
So apparently Spencer is in danger if someone other than Tai and Lukas know "something" about him, to the point that he might die....?? Again wtf ?! This has to be some pretty CRAZY stuff to push it this far. And i assume it's partly related to the reason why Tai is in love with Spencer, but that's only an assumption and i may be wrong.
I may have missed a ton of critical info and details but meh...
Like Diego said, now Adrian HAS to go to the end of this screwed up mess for him to maybe, MAYBE find some sort of peace of mind because right now his head is pretty messed up.
I love this VN, i really do, but holy hell those kind of updates.... they are not bad, FAR from it, they are just.... heavy.... I rarely get this emotionally torn off, but you guys just acheived that. Every update is loaded with fresh and original content, like this one (unrelented but i put this update on the same level of genius writing than HugeCookie's VN "A Place To Call Home" last one.... you guys are crazy genius :D), and i hope the next update will give some answers and clear Adrian's head, or the next one idk how you guys plan to do it :p.
Glad you like it. I know it's a difficult thing to stomach at the moment, sorry about that. Hopefully the eventual answers and resolution are worth it!
When you said some time ago that Tai's route would blow our mind (or something like that) you weren't kidding haha. And now that i can speak with a clear head about this update i can safely say that i actually loved it, it was just the first time for me to experience such a heavy reading session about this topic (cuz yeah i did it in one go i might be crazy :p), and i don't think i ever saw this kind of topic developed this far in other VNs and you had the guts to do it, so don't feel sorry for that because i think it had the desired effect.
(hope it wasn't too much of a headache to understand i sometimes lose myself in my explanations)
i am confused, i love Tai and that's for sure, but Logan is so fucking cute, if i have to choose between those two i will have an existential crisis... i just love this VN, I love Tai's route and I NEED a Logan route so bad.
Time will tell, we've got everything planned out!
i love the storyline but when will the dom and axel route finish or be released im excited for that route mostly axel because dom just seems more like a bother then a lover so thats why im going for axel
Ok I hate how our character jumps to conclusions with tai and does something with Logan that really hurt me playing it I hope the next update he gets back with tai and recoil what they have
No worry, dude. It is not real and I don't think the mc will get over Tai that easily. WE DO know the mc is stuck in a dream and he has to give Spencer the answer he wants. So don't worry
i do think this is somewhat realistic, after something like that MC would want to do these kinds of impulsive things as a way to cope, even if he wouldn't admit it
He sure is acting strangely, huh? I wonder why...
Okay so i finished Diegos route and i am glad about how it handled kyrex in the end, wouldnt mind seeing more of him.
The whole story was great from writing to art.good work.
That being said, i think i found a minor bug in diegos Route. Even thought i played from start to finish, two of his CGs in the gallery havent unlocked, by the placement of the CGs its probably the pic of his first and second fight (not naming stuff cause spoilers). everything after that is there.
Just wanted to mentioned it.
There's been a few wonky triggers for gallery unlocks popping up as of late. We've got some fixes coming in future builds, hopefully that'll make things better!
I can't stop crying why does our character have to break up with tai why do you have to break my heart like that
did that too _-_
this story is really good written you are so talented bro
Thank you :)
Maaan, first Kyrex then Glenn.
Why do the biggest A-holes have the most interesting character arts?
With the way it is going i bet this "Ethan" guy (whoever he is) will look pretty good too.
fortunatly there is Tai's route . Speaking of, do we ever get to see a photo(art) of him of his younger days?
i 'd like see him in punk with that big Mohawk he mentioned when he talked about the band.
Edit: okay, maybe there is more to kyrex then i thought, i only had played tai's route and just recently began Diegos route
There's nothing planned right now, but there is something planned for the Tales routes that give you a look at a younger version of the band!
this is one hell of a great game i had so much fun playing it i cant wait to see what is next on the list for updates and the art work it is so good keep up the great work
Thank you, glad you're enjoying it :)
hey Dev, i would like to ask a favor, i have difficulties about my save arrangement, mine are mess with old save and their riddance are bliss, would you like to add delete button on the Load Game menu, it would be a bliss if i have that in hand......and of course, Love the the story, between the main char and Diego are somethin' even not follow Diego's path, their connection are mutual......looking forward and stay in touch......#sincerelyYourFan.
I believe if you hover with the mouse over your save, then press the "suppr" button, you can delete your save file
The delete key works as well. Doesn't help much for Android though. I'll add this to our to-do list of features. We'll get to it... eventually!
oh my, foolish me, i didn't know the "delete key" on keyboard that play the role, hope u do accept my apologize..... >w<
I NEED TO KNOW... I can't lie I'm a sucker for sharks so i need to know will we EVER be able to have a relationship with Russell He is my favorite character.
PS. this update was phenomenal and I can't wait till the next one your art style amazing story amazing... Thank you.
We're planning on giving a lot of other characters time in the spotlight once the main four routes are finished. There'll definitely be future content for Russell, but it isn't set in stone what that'll be just yet. Time will tell!
Sounds promising consider my day made
i wouldnt mind engaging with jay the dragon myself. heh.
This update was so sad-
--Spoiler--
I'm a bit disappointed with Tai not explaining what his relationship was with Spencer to the MC, I definitely can understand MC's frustration though; being kept in the dark, even if it was for safety, for so long without any sort of explanation does bring up a lot of concerns in relationships.
The MC's reaction is a bit surprising though. Going after someone else, especially someone he met the same day, literally the next day after a breakup is a bit concerning. I feel like he's hiding something...
Anyways, the update was still amazing! Keep up the great work!
I have a question, is there a way to skip a NSFW scene in this game?
i am ace, and i feel kinda emberrassed when i see them ://
Having an option for this is on our list of things to do, but unfortunately it's a rather long list! We'll get something done when time permits, but it could be a while before we can get to it.
I loved the character of logan, can I continue with the journey😂💔
There's more available on Patreon! Otherwise, you'll just have to wait until next month!
Spoilers ahead:
Okay, wow, my heart has been broken once again. I really don't like how the mc is taking this whole 'thing' he seems a little too harsh and quick to get over Tai, and I feel like he made a decision he's definitely going to regret...
He's definitely acting in some very unusual ways... what could it mean?
i have a theory or two about that, but i dont know if it would be a spoiler on the off chance that i would be right.
So i dont know if it is okay to write my theorys here or not.
you can't stop theeeeere :cry:
I'm so worried we'll make a huge mistake!
(also I'm kind of heartbroken because of what happened already T-T )
yea TOTALLY!!! T_T (im listening to a sad song who is about this and crying thinking of them T_T wanna hear it? - Let You Go: Hoved Tungevaag
Your not the only one T_T
There's plenty more story to come yet! Be patient! A payoff is coming!
I'll be patient, this game is worth it ^^
why must you hurt me this way
really don,t know T_T
So I can make you fall in love all over again! Be patient, there's plenty more to come!
no Tai... not again ;( i hope we get some more specific answers in the next few upcoming days. I'm getting too much emotional about Tai's and our relationship *crying emote*
Answers are coming! Just be patient!
:O nice
today's update is great! really makes you wonder what is tai & spencer's relationship; and especially logan! after knowing about him makes me love him even more because of how much I relate to him. being taken advantage by people who call themselves your "friend" to get what they want/need. Too bad he isn't one of the routes, I would've love to date that big teddy bear!
There'll be plenty more time with Logan yet! And there's even a Tale planned for him after 1.0 releases too, so he'll get something!
Why do I have a feeling Logan invited MC to do arts and crafts? If so, sounds like a blast!
Big agreed, the fact that it cut off where it did definitely makes it feel like it's going to be a bait and switch, and thank god, because I super do not want to fuck him under these circumstances... now at a later date, possibly with tai, on the other hand...
Or maybe to watch a movie?
Omg😶
<3 ;)
Great game. Diego's route is so wholesome. However, I feel like Tai's is a bit rushed? Maybe not?? Idk. But I feel a little awkward somehow XD.
Sorry for bad English :V.
yea i get ya, but I just think Tai's route is fire ;) On top of that i really like these bad boy types ;D
I know how ya feel…I got that feeling too with Tai, but hey
but hey?
But hey = each route is gonna be different, so we just gotta deal with it right now
It's definitely not rushed, we're spending far more time on this one. The pacing is deliberately weird though, that's probably what you're referring to. It's all intentional, and all serves a purpose!
But Tai's route isnt rushed. why do you guys keep saying that 🗿
Maybe rushed isn’t the right word, but in my experience, I felt the pacing of Tai’s route was…..very mundane. It was like update after update was just too much sex. The fact that it was so early in the story and in the MC’s relationship with Tai didn’t sit right with me at all and it seemed like pure fan service. I know that issue was addressed in the dialogue and all, but the fact that it kept happening kinda made the story very boring….I found myself skipping through mostly everything….including the sex lol. This last update was really the only interesting one as there were some good story elements here. Although some of the reveals were kinda obvious, it was still nice to see something other that Tai’s
sexual ferocitywas being talked about. I’m just kinda ready for it to be over….with where we are now in his route I’m surprised it’s not, but hey. So maybe not rushed, but the repetition of sex and “let’s get back together because dick and flattery” just feels like filler and fan service while contributing zero to the story….since it’s come this far, hardly anything important has happened, and it’s only been in this recent update. Diego’s route was so nicely paced….they did stuff together, they had heartfelt moments together, and the sex wasn’t shoved in your face like it is with Tai. You actually felt a connection with Diego while Tai is literally just a hot sugar daddy with self induced attachment issues. I guess thrown together is how I’d describe it….the route just sorta passes time.But hey…that’s just a theory….a…novel theory🐊
It was all going good while i was playing Tai route until we went camping and each time i play that part it stopped and returns back to my home screen i need help its a good game too
There's a change in the latest update which may or may not help with this. Give it a shot!
Kyrex's character is so interesting, I really hope he gets his own little route or something after the main ones are all completed.
There's definitely content planned for him later on, stay tuned for that :)
Will there be an update this coming June 2nd?
Yes!
Do we know when on June 2nd
June 2nd lol
I think he means what time. Which I want to know as well xD
No fixed time, sort of a 'when it's ready type of thing'. We're not far off, CurryCatz is just putting the finishing touches on one last piece of art then we're going to test the builds. So a few hours maybe.
Bully ;( XD
Should i say 2nd June instead?
I’m sorry I love doing that to people (in real life)
i just started playing it and i love it so much <3 lukas is my favorite, i can't wait till i can hook up with him, really looking forward to that :D
Someone needs to thaw that cranky bulls heart, and it isn't going to be Eric!